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		<title>&#8216;Nature of God&#8217; Series &#8211; Update and Move</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings to all who have been reading me and to those who will stumble across this blog. I was invited to be co-author of Near Emmaus (NECT) biblioblog and I have accepted. &#8216;Love for the Logos&#8217; will merge with NECT. &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/nature-of-god-series-update-and-move/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=168&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings to all who have been reading me and to those who will stumble across this blog. I was invited to be co-author of <a href="http://nearemmaus.blogspot.com">Near Emmaus</a> (NECT) biblioblog and I have accepted. &#8216;Love for the Logos&#8217; will merge with NECT.</p>
<p>This week was supposed to be the launch of the first post on the &#8216;Nature of God.&#8217; However, I did not anticipate my move and settling into Portland to be a big adjustment for me.</p>
<p>So, in conjunction with the merge of this blog with NECT, I will be beginning my authorship there with this series. Look forward to a discussion of Arian theology next week!</p>
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		<title>Update</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am working on my move to Portland, Oregon so I will not be posting for maybe the next week.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=161&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am working on my move to Portland, Oregon so I will not be posting for maybe the next week.</p>
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		<title>M. James Sawyer Blog @ Sacred Saga Ministries</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am adding to my list the blog of M. James Sawyer, Ph.D. I have corresponded with Dr. Sawyer a few times and sat in his church history classes at Western Seminary, San Jose a couple of times when I &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/sacred-saga-ministries-blog/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=153&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" title="M. James Sawyer" src="http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v336/95/69/636592568/n636592568_903264_9569.jpg" alt="" width="108" height="149" />I am adding to my list the blog of M. James Sawyer, Ph.D. I have corresponded with Dr. Sawyer a few times and sat in his church history classes at Western Seminary, San Jose a couple of times when I was checking out what seminary was like. He is a theologian and church historian of top caliber. He has opened my eyes more than a little on the doctrine of God. His blog can be read at <a href="http://www.sacredsaga.org/jims-blog">Sacred Saga Ministries &#8211; Jim&#8217;s Blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>Fuller Seminary President on Seminary Selection</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard J. Mouw, Ph.D., has an informative article on choosing a seminary. In it he covers: Types of Seminaries Size and Emphasis Programs of Study Accreditation Practical Considerations Value Versus Cost God&#8217;s Call Read it here. HT: Fuller Theological Seminary &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/fuller-seminary-president-on-seminary-selection/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=145&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="www.fuller.edu"><img class="alignright" title="Dr. Mouw" src="http://www.fuller.edu/uploadedImages/About_Fuller/drmouw-profile-photo-small.jpg?n=3420" alt="" width="100" height="104" /></a>Richard J. Mouw, Ph.D., has an informative article on choosing a seminary. In it he covers:</p>
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<li>Types of Seminaries</li>
<li>Size and Emphasis</li>
<li>Programs of Study</li>
<li>Accreditation</li>
<li>Practical Considerations</li>
<li>Value Versus Cost</li>
<li>God&#8217;s Call</li>
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<p>Read it <a href="http://www.fuller.edu/prospective-students/how-to-choose-a-seminary.aspx">here</a>.</p>
<p>HT: <a href="http://http://www.facebook.com/fullerseminary">Fuller Theological Seminary Facebook Fan Page</a></p>
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		<title>Back into Biblical Greek</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The past year I&#8217;ve been working exclusively with biblical Hebrew. This year I will add biblical Greek into the mix. This will officially be my third year of Greek. I had taken two years at the undergraduate level. I was &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/back-into-biblical-greek/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=129&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The past year I&#8217;ve been working exclusively with biblical Hebrew. This year I will add biblical Greek into the mix. This will officially be my third year of Greek. I had taken two years at the undergraduate level. I was also privileged to be a substitute Greek teacher for a one and a half months. During my undergrad studies, I found Greek to be more easily dissectible, while I thought Hebrew to be the funner of the two. Now that I&#8217;ve become better acquainted with the Hebrew language, I will have to hold off on comments until I finish this program.</p>
<p>The course I will be taking is <em>Introduction to New Testament Greek</em>. Looking at last year&#8217;s syllabus, it appears we have a few required textbooks, one being William Mounce&#8217;s <em>Basics of Biblical Greek</em>. The one that is listed is the first edition; I suspect we will be using the second edition.<a id="refbbg1" href="#bbg1"><sup>1</sup></a><img class="alignright" title="Basics of Biblical Greek" src="http://www.zondervan.com/images/product/medium/0310250870.jpg" alt="" width="93" height="143" /> I am familiar with this book because I used it as a supplement to my grammar in my bachelor program. Now that it is required, I am looking forward to making it a well-used resource in my library.</p>
<p>One advantage I have found with Mounce&#8217;s book over the one I used in my initial studies<a id="refbbg2" href="#bbg2"><sup>2</sup></a> is the correlation between the English grammar and the Greek grammar. Mounce introduces a particular grammatical concept in English first (for instance, the idea of the imperfect tense—continual action in the past), how it is expressed (e.g., he <span style="text-decoration:underline;">was saying</span>) in English, and then connects it to the Greek (<em>elegen</em>). When I taught the advanced Greek class, I did the same thing, and the students instantly got it. Also his memorization system is top notch.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" title="Essentials of New Testament Greek" src="http://g.christianbook.com/g/slideshow/2/21011/main/21011_1_ftc_dp.jpg" alt="" width="85" height="136" />On the other hand, I feel Summers and Sawyer&#8217;s work has an advantage over that of Mounce&#8217;s in that it introduces the student to syntax much earlier. For example, their chapter<a id="refbbg3" href="#bbg3"><sup>3</sup></a> on the imperfect active indicative is a condensed version of what one would find on the imperfect in Daniel Wallace&#8217;s Greek syntax.</p>
<p>I am truly looking forward to relearning and honing my Greek translating ability up to a competent level.</p>
<p>______</p>
<p><a id="bbg1"><sup>1</sup></a> William D. Mounce, <em>Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar</em>, 2nd ed. (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2003).<a href="#refbbg1">[Back]</a></p>
<p><a id="bbg2"><sup>2</sup></a> Ray Summers, <em>Essentials of New Testament Greek</em>, rev. Thomas Sawyer, rev. ed. (Nashville, TN: Broadman and Holman Publishers, 1995).<a href="#refbbg2">[Back]</a></p>
<p><a id="bbg3"><sup>3</sup></a> Summers, 55-58.<a href="#refbbg3">[Back]</a></p>
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		<title>Misdoing Logic</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It worries me when someone who has a screen name that apparently describes him/her as knowledgeable in logic misdoes logic. In the video title, LogicFilter claims to &#8220;dismantle&#8221; Ravi Zacharias&#8217;s argument. But listen and watch carefully. You will note that &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/121/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=121&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>It worries me when someone who has a screen name that apparently describes him/her as knowledgeable in logic misdoes logic. In the video title, LogicFilter claims to &#8220;dismantle&#8221; Ravi Zacharias&#8217;s argument. But listen and watch carefully. You will note that LogicFilter never once deals with Ravi&#8217;s argument. Filter instead creates his own representation of the argument—which is completely unlike Zacharias&#8217;s—and then proceeds to dismantle the misrepresentation.</p>
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		<title>Mounce on Translations and Translators</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[William D. Mounce, a.k.a. Bill Mounce, is a reputable Greek scholar. He is author of Basics of Biblical Greek, the standard introduction to biblical Greek grammar used in seminaries across North America. He received a question regarding Tagalog translations. Because &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/mounce-on-translations-and-translators/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=108&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William D. Mounce, a.k.a. Bill Mounce, is a reputable Greek scholar. He is author of <em>Basics of Biblical Greek</em>, the standard introduction to biblical Greek grammar used in seminaries across North America. He received a question regarding Tagalog translations. Because it has something to do with the Philippine national language, I thought my Filipino readers would find this of interest. I the broader audience will also find some value in his perspective because it has to do with translations at large.</p>
<p>The question regarded the grammar of the two major Tagalog translations—Ang Biblia (The Bible) and Ang Magandang Balita (The Good News)—and their method of translation. Although they are translated by some sort of Bible society, both translations seemed to follow the English word order. The inquirer makes the following observation:</p>
<blockquote><p>As I try to further learn the Greek language, it inspired me to probe on the Tagalog (my countries native tongue) translation of the Bible. I discovered that we had two versions: Ang Biblia (1905) brought by the Evangelical Union Missionaries and the newer ones , Ang Magandang Balita (1970) translated by our very own Philippine Bible Society.  Now both translations, as stated in their prefaces, claimed to have based their translation work from the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts but as I work my way through the translation, I began to notice that our Tagalog translation of the Bible may have based it&#8217;s work not on the Hebrew and Greek themselves but actually on the English Bibles (KJV and NIV). . . . It seems to follow the same rules of the English grammar while it should have been following the Greek or Hebrew.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mounce makes a few points in response. Perhaps the most helpful point is that translators consult other translations. The point is that there is value in finding agreement with other translations. He notes that</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . translators are always looking at other translations, and it may be that the Tagalog translators relied somewhat on English to help them understand the Greek. If you are making a new translation, and if you have two or three English translations that all agree on a specific translation, that consistency can have a strong influence on how you translate. It isn’t that you are copying; you are wanting to be careful and right, and there is a perceived safety in numbers.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is good news for aspiring Greek (and Hebrew) scholars and translators, who often consult with a translation in their native language as they learn the language. As far as I can recall, virtually every English translation has relied upon other translations. It is uplifting to know that for any translation from a reputable group of translators, the translators have done their best to make sure what is in one&#8217;s Bible is accurate. Part of this is accomplished by the translators&#8217; comparing theirs with others who have come before them.</p>
<p>Read Mounce&#8217;s response in its entirety in his post <a href="http://www.billmounce.com/blog/04-06-2009/are-translations-really-based-greek-and-hebrew">Are translations really based on the Greek and Hebrew?</a>.</p>
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		<title>Seminary Goers and Considerers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There aren&#8217;t too many resources on the web with helpful information about attending seminary. Such lack of resources makes GoingToSeminary a gem. Here one will find all sorts of information, ranging from tips on managing finances while in seminary to &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/seminary-goers-and-considerers/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=99&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:left;"><img class="aligncenter" title="GoingToSeminary" src="http://www.goingtoseminary.com/wp-content/themes/zenko/images/logo.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="85" />There aren&#8217;t too many resources on the web with helpful information about attending seminary. Such lack of resources makes GoingToSeminary a gem. Here one will find all sorts of information, ranging from tips on managing finances while in seminary to interviews with professors and students. This site is valuable for those in seminary and for those who may feel the call to go but want a perspective or two.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Check it out at <a href="http://www.goingtoseminary.com">GoingToSeminary.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>&#8216;Nature of God&#8217; Series Schedule</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have mulled over this series quite a bit today and it looks like I will keep it four parts. I intend to post each part every three weeks. This should be possible given that I&#8217;m not traveling between Seattle-Tacoma &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/nature-of-god-series-schedule/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=96&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mulled over this series quite a bit today and it looks like I will keep it four parts. I intend to post each part every three weeks. This should be possible given that I&#8217;m not traveling between Seattle-Tacoma and Portland, same day return, twice a week anymore.</p>
<p>Expect to see the first post the week of September 13-17 on Unitarian (Arian) theology. In the meantime, keep checking back for some bibliotheoblog action!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JohnDave Medina</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The nature of God has always been one of my interests since I became a Christian. God&#8217;s nature is beyond the grasp of the human mind, yet as one draws closer to God, one cannot resist but try to probe &#8230; <a href="http://logoslove.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/nature-of-god-introduction/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logoslove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9160819&amp;post=55&amp;subd=logoslove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nature of God has always been one of my interests since I became a Christian. God&#8217;s nature is beyond the grasp of the human mind, yet as one draws closer to God, one cannot resist but try to probe into the depths of His being. In his classic work <em>Knowing God</em>, J. I. Packer opens the first chapter with the introduction of Charles Spurgeon&#8217;s sermon on the topic of God&#8217;s nature. Spurgeon eloquently and rightly conveyed the importance and the effects of studying the nature of God:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . the proper study of a Christian is the Godhead. The highest science, the loftiest speculation, the mightiest philosophy, which can ever engage the attention of a child of God, is the name, the nature, the person, the work, the doings, and the existence of the great God whom he calls his Father.</p>
<p>There is something exceedingly improving to the mind in a contemplation of the Divinity. It is a subject so vast, that all our thoughts are lost in its immensity; so deep, that our pride is drowned in its infinity. Other subjects we can compass and grapple with; . . . But when we come to this master science, finding that our plumbline cannot sound its depth, and that our eagle eye cannot see its height, we turn away with the thought that vain man would be wise, but he is like a wild ass&#8217;s colt; and with solemn exclamation, &#8220;I am but of yesterday, and know nothing.&#8221; No subject of contemplation will tend to humble the man, than thoughts of God. . . .</p>
<p>But while the subject <em>humbles</em> the mind, it also expands it. He who often thinks of God, will have a larger mind than the man who simply plods around this narrow globe. . . . Nothing will so enlarge the intellect, nothing so magnify the whole soul of man, as a devout, earnest, continued investigation of the great subject of the Deity.<a id="refngi1" href="#ngi1"><sup>1</sup></a></p></blockquote>
<p>The purpose of this series is to enter into the study of those brave enough to enter into the study of the Godhead. Having studied with knowledgeable members of the groups to be examined; having discussed, conversed, and debated on the topic of the Godhead over the course of many years; and having studied the subject of the Godhead at the baccalaureate and beyond, I feel I have, know, and understand enough that would qualify me to do this series.</p>
<p>The audience I write toward is not the scholastic community but those who are not so theologically inclined. I seek to avoid deep philosophy as much as possible. The nature of such a topic as this, however, requires that philosophy be done to a certain extent. If there is a time that requires the study to engage the matter with deeper philosophy, only that which is needed to understand sufficiently the concept(s) will be relayed.</p>
<p>I also aim to contribute to the discussion that takes place between the members of each of these groups. To do this I will 1) retrace some historical aspects of the positions, 2) note the strengths that each position has, and 3) note where there are perceived deficiencies. To allow for fair evaluation of each position, I will attempt to remove as much of my own theology as can be removed. Where a particular group has felt its belief adheres to Scripture, I will seek to be as faithful as I am able in exegeting the Scripture and in representing the position so that both can accurately be compared.</p>
<p>I hope this series will educate and bless its readers. I welcome any questions, comments, clarifications, and corrections to this work.</p>
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<p><a id="ngi1"><sup>1</sup></a> Charles H. Spurgeon, &#8220;The Immutability of God,&#8221; (sermon, New Park Street Chapel, Southwark, UK, January 7, 1855), quoted in J. I. Packer, <em>Knowing God: 20th Anniversary Edition</em> (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1973, 1993), 17-18.<a href="#refngi1">[Back]</a></p>
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